1.6 billion is far less than I thought WT might be worth. Didn’t they just recently sell off many properties to the tune of a billion?
the girl next door
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Montana jury awards two women $35M in sex abuse lawsuit against Jehovah's Witnesses
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://missoulian.com/news/local/montana-jury-awards-two-women-m-in-sex-abuse-lawsuit/article_1bcabb7c-7381-574b-a2ba-e011cc0250a6.html.
montana jury awards two women $35m in sex abuse lawsuit against jehovah's witnesses .
a jury in northwestern montana awarded two women $35 million wednesday in their lawsuit against the local jehovah’s witnesses congregation and its worldwide headquarters.. .
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One aspect of the Bible I still greatly benefit from
by Ireneus inthough many things in the bible do not make sense to me, there is something in it that makes my life easy.. this is how i arrived at it.
bible defines god as the servant of his children because he makes provisions for the enjoyment of life in abundance (mathew 5:44-47) and ‘renews’ them if need arises (mathew 19:28) with no intervention whatsoever in between which means he is not interested in gratitude/worship from his children.
yet history shows that people forget him in happiness and remember him only in distress which means he is not given love (though he is the giver of love), and he is not bothered of it.
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the girl next door
Earth can be bad for your health too. On land, grizzly bears want to maul you; in the oceans, sharks want to eat you. Snowdrifts can freeze you, deserts dehydrate you, earthquakes bury you, volcanoes incinerate you. Viruses can infect you, parasites suck your vital fluids, cancers take over your body, congenital diseases force an early death. And even if you have the good luck to be healthy, a swarm of locusts could devour your crops, a tsunami could wash away your family, or a hurricane could blow apart your town.
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How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant
by ShirleyW ini'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.
just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .
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the girl next door
Because I refuse to let politics put me in therapy.
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EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection
by cofty intoday's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.
the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.
the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.
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the girl next door
If Watchtower lived up to their claims of being “without spot from this world” they would be blazing a trail on how religious institutions could be superior in protecting children from sexual abuse. Instead they have proven to be the most egregious, only making changes when forced to do so by secular authorities. When they bleed enough money they may eventually raise their hand and accept how horrific their policies have been but don’t hold your breath.
Comparing statistics and finding the Watchtower record is the same, better or worse is pedantic at best and a straw man. It is all horrible and society should do better in every arena that must deal with child sexual abuse.
However successful law enforcement is or is not in prosecuting does not absolve anyone of the necessity to report abuse to authorities who are far better equipped to address the issue and protect other children.
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JWs using 'apostate' phraseology?
by neat blue dog ini've mentioned before how a regular pioneer used the phrases "tight-pants tony" and "don't drink the kool-aid".
well the other week, a different regular pioneer, and elderly one in fact, was talking about the simplified watchtower being discontinued and the normal one replacing it, and she said 'i guess they're just gonna dumb-down everything'.
then too even the org itself used the words "fade" and "shun" in recent articles, words that were previously shied away from.. anybody here experienced something similar, a seeming pimi saying something that makes you wonder if they've been sneaking ex-jw 'spiritual food' on the side?.
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the girl next door
Oh! Thank you. I would like to know the justification WT makes for a move that seems anti progressive. Is the need for a simplified version not useful? An unneeded extra cost? Are those simplified versions piling up in the magazine room? Do they even have magazine rooms anymore? Lol.
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JWs using 'apostate' phraseology?
by neat blue dog ini've mentioned before how a regular pioneer used the phrases "tight-pants tony" and "don't drink the kool-aid".
well the other week, a different regular pioneer, and elderly one in fact, was talking about the simplified watchtower being discontinued and the normal one replacing it, and she said 'i guess they're just gonna dumb-down everything'.
then too even the org itself used the words "fade" and "shun" in recent articles, words that were previously shied away from.. anybody here experienced something similar, a seeming pimi saying something that makes you wonder if they've been sneaking ex-jw 'spiritual food' on the side?.
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the girl next door
Could you clarify? How is replacing the simplified WT with the normal one a “dumbing-down”? Are they going back to the 32 page magazine? I’m just not familiar with what they publish anymore.
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How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant
by ShirleyW ini'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.
just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .
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Na, I think that is unfair. Fervor for a leader is common. I see nothing extraordinary about the supporters for Trump. None of them are being controlled to the point of excommunication if they don’t keep in line.
It’s natural to shy away from “facts” that don’t square with your views and find an alternative approach to those facts. That’s easy to do in such a polarized partisan environment.
Fear is a tactic used by Watchtower to control the “sheep”. I don’t think Trump supporters are controlled through fear.
Cult of this, cult of that. It seems society wants to apply the label to everything, but in reality it just diminishes the severe reality of actual cults and the experiences associated with them.
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question about the go bags.
by goingthruthemotions inits been a minute since posting, have been trying to put this cult in my review mirror and just live life.
but you know this beast rears it's evil head.
my wife found my crisis of conscience book and out came the horns plus i guess what she is hearing at the meetings isn't helping either.
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the girl next door
It’s a sham. It’s not a serious campaign to teach them legitimate emergency preparedness. It’s a ploy to keep them constantly dwelling on Armageddon as a real possibility by making them accomplish a physical task and then look at that physical “go bag” as a constant physical reminder that the destruction of mankind is a very real foundation of their belief system.
When I was a little kid my mom would tell me that when the tribulation came we would all just go into the Kingdom Hall and be protected.
Now they have go bags and bunkers and play more in the element of fear for shock value. If they had a real clue their bunkers would look more like the LDS. ;)
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question about the go bags.
by goingthruthemotions inits been a minute since posting, have been trying to put this cult in my review mirror and just live life.
but you know this beast rears it's evil head.
my wife found my crisis of conscience book and out came the horns plus i guess what she is hearing at the meetings isn't helping either.
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the girl next door
I live in California in a place prone to fires and flooding and I’ve been through two earthquakes that rendered my dwelling condemned.
I have serious “go bags”, crates, vehicle upgrades and bug out plans for the entire family along with firearms and ammo to last 6 months.
Watchtower’s Armageddon isn’t coming but I’m all for emergency preparedness.
Every year Watchtower gives a chunk of time to talk about preparing for the great tribulation and packing a go bag. Some take it seriously some don’t.
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How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant
by ShirleyW ini'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.
just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .
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the girl next door
He cut people off instead of hearing out questions and he often went on a tangent about something unrelated to the question. He was also very repetitive, going over the same words and phrases 2 or 3 times in the same stream of a single answer. Over the span of several minutes some of his statements seemed to be contradictory to what he had just stated minutes earlier, almost as if he wanted a satisfactory answer to be available to listeners with different expectations.
I appreciated his complete candor on many answers, as if he wasn’t trying to be diplomatic. There is no guesswork when he makes straightforward statements like that. Of course those items were nothing new, he has made his stance on them clear in the past.
He also has a decent sense of humor. He has been pretty nasty toward some media representatives, but now he appears to be making light of his pet peeves with some humor laced in. Probably because it wasn’t a rally with his base but instead a room full of media.
I was surprised he said his mind could be changed on the Kavanaugh appointment after calling all the late accusations a con job.
I was amused that he equates “con job” with “confidence job”
I think he is wise to express confidence in Rosenstein when many are telling him to fire the guy.
I think he is honest for saying that his view on assault accusations is different from many because he has had his own share of accusations launched at him.
It wasn’t brilliant. It was a glimpse into his prowess as a tv personality. It was a rare look at him in a full fledged media event. That made it captivating, entertaining and somewhat enlightening.
But there is a very real possibility that much of what he stated will be contradicted by what he says tomorrow or throughout the week. But he knows that and he knows it’s why everyone waits for his next words.